The
Macapagal Hacker Erased the Previous Entries in the Wikipedia and Wrote this:
“ Don Carlos La Candola, his
great-grandfather, was Lord and principal of the town of Tondo and other
surrounding towns, whose natives paid him tribute and vassalage and other
recognition as their natural lord and when ships from China came to this bay,
they similarly paid him duties and anchorage fees, he removed their sails and
rudder for this purpose and took their merchandise by paying half its value at
the time and the other half the next year, without any other natives being able
to buy anything from the sangleyes but only from the said Lacandola, from which
much profit, which he ceded at the coming of the Spaniards to these Islands,
they collected the said tributes and duties for His Majesty. ”
Now
compare that with this:
Lubao
Tall Tale Club
Diana Panlilio - August 14th, 2009 - The great grandfather of Carlos Candola was
Lord and principal of the town of Lubao, and other surrounding towns, whose
natives paid him tribute and vassalage and other recognition as their natural
lord, and when ships from China came to this bay, they similarly paid him
duties and anchorage fees, he removing their sails and rudder for this purpose,
and taking their merchandise by paying half its value at the time and the other
half the next year, without any other natives being able to buy anything from
the sangleyes but only from the said Candola, from which much profit, which he
ceded at the coming of the Spaniards to these Islands, they collecting the said
tributes and duties for His Majesty.
Source:http://www.knowledgerush.com/kr/jsp/db/board.jsp?id=52376
jjmacam
from the gatbonton clan - May 31st, 2011 -
yan ang kalahi ni Gloria at hinde si Lakan Dula..kitang kita sa gawain d
b?
Paid
Hack of the Bad Macapagal
Rizza Guiao - August 24th, 2009 - The
discussion page of Lakan Dula in Wikipedia was hacked by a paid staff of the
Bad Macapagals. I knew him. He is bragging a lot about it. Fortunately, I keep
on seeing some of the deleted discussions here, posted by fellow Cabalen. So,
let us thank this website for siding with the Good Macapagals from Candaba.
We know the Bad Macapagals from Lubao will
try to do something to neutralize this site but I trust this website.Rest
assured that we will expose them and prove once in for all that we, the Good
Macapagal from Candaba is the real descendant of Lakan Dula of Tondo. The Bad
Macapagals are descendant of Candola of San Luis...whoever he is.
Reply
jjmacam
- May 31st, 2011 - they also removed.
the gatbonton wikipedia. since they used my clan as axis to the lakan dula
heirtage but then they discovered that FPJ is a grandson of lola martha
gatbonton. so now they are attaching themselves to malang balagtas. kung saan
saan sila sumusuot.
Therefore,
the Macapagals are corrupting our history. Is there a punishment for people
corrupting history?
Gatbontons
link to the Dula...
I am a grandson of Feliza Gatbonton
Corrales-Macam. The Gatbontons are not descendants of Lakan Dulas but rather a
direct relative. Gatbonton (mandala) was the administrator of the rice granary
of the kingdom. He was the son of Dayang Lahat, sister of Raja Sulaiman Sri
lila (salalila)I. His other kin were MONMON, GATCHALIAN, GATMAITAN, MACARALAGA,
GATMAITIM, MANDIC, GATDULA and DUMANDAN." note, the Gatdulas of today is
not in the line of the present day Dulas. But surely of the Gatbontons as their
Father was Gat Timog. The will says:"GATBONTON married MACAYABONGDILI ( in
english: the one with the ladies in waiting), a sister of my father*. They had
five children, namely LOVERA, MACABAT, CAPITANGAN, TAUI and PAMPALUNG (founder
of the kingdom of apalit) whom they called MACAPAGAL. The name could have been
used as a cover up to avoid persecution when the Gatbontons escaped Tondo for
Candaba via Rio Grande River. The name was used during his youth and assumed
another before he died. He had also a son named Palong Gatbonton. From this
line comes the line of my great Grandmother Simeona Gatbonton-Corrales, Martha
Gatbonton-kelly;grandmother of FPJ, juan Gatbonton, liborio Gatbonton, Manolo gatbonton
and Zcarina gatbonton.
Regarding the Gloria quest to the lakandula
thingy..I have an acquaintance whose name was Jeanne Pascal Tan her mother was
a De Lacandola, she was really spanish looking though she claims that her roots
were from tondo. okey...it means the surname de Lacandola really did it exist
but it has no proven relation with the Dula. Since it does sound similar it
created a confusion between the two. And now the Marcoses also claims that they
are the descendants of Lakan Dula, remember their Maharlika illusion? From the
Gutilio side, and so The Macapagals, by way of attaching their family name here
and there. Rumors has it that the Arroyos are related to the Marcoses...hmmm...
parang nga. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paperprince (talk • contribs)
13:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
The
Proper Way for the Macapagal Arroyo to Link with the Lakan Dula Bloodline...
Apparently, the Macapagal Arroyo family of
Lubao, Pampanga needs to be precise on their claim of ancestry with Lakan Bunao
Dula of the Kingdom of Manila. Their claim lies on one of the surnames their
grandmother has: Lacandola. Their initial strategy to claim their ancestry from
Lakan Dula is to change the name of Lakan Bunao Dula to Lakandula, and maybe
later to Lacandola. They did that. When the Gloria Arroyo was the president,
she initiated the Lakandula Award. Take note that it is incorrect because it
should had been Lakan Dula. Then they are maneuvering to dilute historical
records by saying the Lakan Bunao Dula few months before he died was later
called Don Carlos Lacandola. It was a long shot.
What they failed to recognized that in
order to trace their lineage with Lakan Dula, they should do it through his children, namely: Batang
Dula, Magat Salamat, Dionisio Capulong, Felipe Salonga, Martin Lakan Dula, and
Maria Poloin. Magat Salamat died early as martyr. It is not yet clear if he has
children before he died. Definitely Martin Lakan Dula lineage stopped because
he joined and died as a priest, so, he has no children. The best bet of the
Macapagal Arroyo is to trace their roots from any among Batang Dula, Dionisio
Capulong, Felipe Salonga and Maria Poloin.
What they have not explored thoroughly is
the lineage of Batang Dula who has three children: David, Daba and Dola and
where hidden among his relatives in places presently known as Candawid, Candaba
and Candola respectively, Kan is an ancient Tagalog word for "owned".
Apparently, these three children were given with tracts of land and plantations
protected by armed relatives. Dola, the youngest daughter was given a big tract
of farmland in what is now known as Candola in San Luis, Pampanga. If the
Macapagal Arroyo family can only prove through their family history that they
descended from that granddaughter of Lakan Dula in San Luis, whose descendants
adopted a surname Lacandola and settled in Lubao, Pampanga, then, it could have
been historically probable that their Macapagal Arroyo family descended from
Lakan Dula. But their family history is not saying this. Maybe they need to
research some more. What they can do is to trace the ancestors of their grandmother
which has a Lacondola surname and see if their root is from Candola, San Luis,
Pampanga. Maybe they should also look for their relatives there and ask some
questions among the old folks. Maybe the house of Dola is still there. They can
look for antique artifacts, etc. If there is no Lacandola surname in Candola,
why? Is there a history of massive migration to Lubao? Because of Spanish
prosecution?
One complication about the search of the
Macapagal Arroyo on their link with Lakan Dula is that the Capulong and
Macapagal of the historical Candaba are disowning them. They don't like the
family history that the Macapagal of Lubao sided with the Spaniards against the
native patriots. The Salonga lineage is also against the Macapagal, for one,
Sen. Jovito Salonga led the Liberal Party of President Noynoy Aquino, a Lakan
Dula descendant himself from the Sumulong side - in putting ex-President Gloria
Arroyo to jail. The hereditary leader of the Dulay Mendoza Clan of Marikina
Valley has also a bad personal experience with President Gloria Arroyo which
only PGMA personal secretary Yoko Ramos can confide.
Meantime, the confusions of the Macapagal
Arroyo in their desperate effort to link with the bloodline of Lakan Dula
continues. Their approach for so many years is wrong. — preceding unsigned comment
added by 112.204.141.176 (talk) 10:38, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
You should also take notice that Lakan Dula
was not the King of Maynila, but the king of Lusung(Kingdom of Tondo)--Mangacha
(talk) 18:24, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
The source of mangling, diluting and
corruption of this article and historical notes is the wrong way the
influential Macapagal Arroyo family of Lubao are trying to established their
link with the the bloodline of Lakan Bunao Dula.They want to change the name of
Lakan Bunao Dula and slant the history towards the surname Lacandola, a common
Filipino surname who accidentally is the surname of their grandmother. No
matter how successful they are changing the name towards, eventually,
Lacandola, still the question is from which children of Lakan Banaw Dula they
came from. They must show in their family history their direct link to one of
the children. It is not yet too late, they should now focus their research
towards this direction and not on mangling the name and historical
circumstances of Lakan Bunao Dula. And just a suggestion, they should shed out
in their family history their traitor image by saying that they did not
actually cooperated with Spain to fight against the native patriots. It leaves
a bad taste to the memory of Lakan Bunao Dula that one family trying to link to
his legacy are a lineage of traitors... — preceding unsigned comment added by
116.50.227.107 (talk) 06:17, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
I think the paid "historians" of
both Diosdado Macapagal and Gloria Arroyo are the one bungling the link of the
Macapagal Family of Lubao to the bloodline of Lakan Dula of Tondo by attempting
to change the name of Lakan Dula to the name of one of their grandmother who
accidentally has a surname Lacandola, a common Filipino surname. They even want
to change the historical circumstances of Lakan Dula to fit the invented person
Don Carlos Lacandola, just to put the surname Lacandola in place. One of their
major mistakes is to write the Don Carlos Lacandola "exploits" as a
traitor supporting the Spanish government against the native patriots. Another
blunder they have is they did not secure from which child of Lakan Dula did
they came from. They did not realize that all they need to do is to research on
their blood with one of the Lakan Dula children and their bloodline with Lakan
Dula is secured, just like the claim of the family of Jose Rizal to the Lakan
Dula bloodline through Maria Poloin, one of the children of Lakan Dula. They
should also write the history of their family on the heroic side, not on the
traitor side. Two generations of lies, miscalculations and mistakes of the
Macapagal family paid "historians" are for all of us to see...through
their own undoings. — preceding unsigned comment added by 116.50.246.162 (talk)
09:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
I think Gloria Arroyo is a descendant of
Lakan Dula from the Dola lineage of Candola, San Luis Pampanga thats the reason
why the SUMPA NI LAKAN DULA happened on her... — Preceding unsigned comment
added by 112.204.150.144 (talk) 22:56, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
So, because Gloria Arroyo is a descendant
of Lakan Banao Dula, therefore, the curse has an effect on her. If she is not a
descendant, the curse will not affect...logical.But, just the same, they have
to visit the ancestral land of Dola in Candola, San Luis, Pampanga and search
for their relatives there. They should listen to the stories of the old folks
in Candola, San Luis why they adopted the surname Lacandola and moved to Lubao,
etc..they should look for artifacts. Maybe they will also learn of some heroic
deeds ( not traitors deed) of their Dola lineage...
Alternativity
is back, expect a slant towards Lacandola Tall Tales..this article should be
deleted already
First, Alternativity disregarded the
historical citation of William Scott that Lakan is the title, which means
"paramount ruler" Lakan being the title, Bunao or Carlos is the first
name and Dula is the surname, the name of Lakan Dula should have been Lakan Bunao
Dula or Lakan Carlos Dula (title, first name, surname).The article at its
present revision is a captive of Lacandola Tall Tales.....this should be
deleted. Well paid "historical hackers" are now on loose. — preceding
unsigned comment added by 116.50.227.107 (talk) 01:09, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
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